Saturday, June 2, 2012

My bad experience with Indiatimes Shopping, an E-Commerce site in India


I know this post is very lengthy. But please do read for your own benefit !
 
I looked at so many e-commerce websites in India and done shopping on a few of them. I always used to think that all the sites look alike (is it not as easy as search, select and pay) and its very different to differentiate the services in the e-commerce domain. I felt that to be the reason for not much of competition in each of the domains (books, gadgets, apparel etc) and hence a few players.

I read "zappos.com - Delivering Happiness" book and wondered how Tony Hsieh could create so much impact through the customer service while focusing on selling only shoes online !

I was wondering how big guns like Futurebazaar can compete in a market growing with new entrants.

I knew that e-commerce is a long term game and it took eight solid years for Amazon to break-even. My initial impression was 'what was he doing for so many years apart from expanding the coverage and product base?'

Apart from Internet penetration the other major enablers for e-commerce adoption are credit-cards usage and trust. I was thinking earlier about 'trust' in the form of payments and delivery.

The thread that runs through all the above thinking is about 'customer experience'. I had a first-hand experience to understand about what could go wrong with customer experience in an e-commerce company.

Being an avid reader, I was greedy on my part to be tempted on a '30% more discount only for 3 days' offer by Indiatimes Shopping site. I went to the site on third day and browsed through the catalog.

I found multiple versions of a book and thought of them as different editions or paperback / hard-cover or indian / foreign editions. I wanted to check them all individually, but the site was inaccessible on every other request.

I selected the three books I wanted and went to 'check-out' option to review and confirm my order. To my surprise I found no option to navigate back to the main site and leave the check-out process in the middle. I personally feel this is restricting the user to not abandon the shopping cart. But I guess no one would like this option, given a choice.

I provided the payment details and got the 'Verified by Visa' page from payment gateway. I provided the code, which was verified and the redirection to the site was happening. As the Indiatimes Shopping was down (or probably not able to sustain high loads) at that time, it showed me an error page. This is a classic case of 'hung payment' when the user would not know whether his payment was through or not !

I checked the status of my order status through 'My Order' tab. It showed that my order is captured. The status column said 'Created'. I had to wonder what that really means ! Surprisingly, the 3 books I selected to buy earlier are still present in the shopping cart !

I haven't got a transaction SMS from the credit card provider. Usually these SMS messages come even before the re-direction to the site happens. I was puzzled that there was no message yet on that occasion.

I called up the voice support number that was provided on the website in each of the header pages. I got an 'invalid number' message !!

I was happy to find a chat option on the website and initiated chat. I got a welcome message and after a few seconds, I got an automated message saying that all the customer executives are busy. I was advised to leave a message, which I promptly did including my contact details. I never got a response from their support team through any channel - phone or e-mail.

I waited for an hour and checked my order status and it has not changed at all. I did not receive any SMS messages, phone calls or e-mails on the issue.

I found another number on their site and called-up that number. My order was verified and I was told to wait for an hour or so to see any change in status. I had no better option but to wait. Apparently, this is no toll-free number. I call up to raise a complaint about their system and pay for it too !

I provided my feedback on the site with all the details. I got an automated e-mail that the feedback is received. I haven't heard from their feedback team yet.

I waited till evening and checked the status of the order. Nothing changed. I thought I shall try to place the order again. As the items were still hanging in the 'Cart', I went to 'Check-out' process and tried to provide the gift coupon code. Surprise - no discount was allowed on the code !

I raised a case against my order. Yes, they have an option to report a case against an order. Not sure, if there is anyone looking into the cases at all - there is no response yet !

I called them again at about 6 PM in the evening and here is the conversation I had with the customer executive (CE):


CE
Thanks for calling Indiatimes Shopping. How can I help you?
Vijay
Hi. I placed an order with Indiatimes Shopping. My order seems to be captured but the items are still hanging in the shopping cart. I have not received any confirmation of my order. Can you please confirm the order?
CE
Give me your order number please.
Vijay
Here it is…
CE
[ does something for a few secs ] Sorry sir. All our systems are down currently
Vijay
So, what happens to my order?
CE
Sorry sir. All our systems are down currently
Vijay
Let me know how you can help me. Can I speak to one of your seniors? I have no complaints about YOU, but I just want to give my feedback about the system.
CE
Sorry sir. All of them are busy right now.
Vijay
So, what do I do now?
CE
You can call us after half an hour sir. Or much better, you can call us tomorrow.
Vijay
But the offer closes tonight.
CE
Sorry sir. All our systems are down currently.
Vijay
Ok then.
CE
Is there anything ELSE I can help you with sir?
Vijay
Yeah, Sure ! Can you get me a scoop of Coconut Ice-cream with Cone from Natural's? [ Click … ]


Except for the last statement the rest of the conversation is verbatim that happened with the customer executive. It's an understatement if I say 'It's heights of worst customer experience' !

I later got a couple of transaction alert notices from my credit card providers. I guess it happened through transaction reconciliations at later point in time. I don't know why it's duplicated. Now my money is taken, but there is no response or order-change status from Indiatimes. Apparently, I noticed this delayed response and delivery from this vendor from others' experiences shared on Internet.

I tweeted to them on twitter and got a cold and canned reply 'We regret your inconvenience…'.

As you could see, no unit of the customer service department functioned effectively and the lack of integration among all these units - online chat, feedback on website, order complaints, call center, twitter - was quite obvious. If the entire system had unexpected load, they could have at least devised a pro-active plan to deal with customers without losing their image.

Two lessons from this experience:

  1. For all those entrepreneurs venturing into E-Commerce domain, remember that 'customer service' is the key. With all the experience I had at this shopping site now, I would not dare shop at their site in the near future - even if they give me 90% discount. Integrated functioning of the entire customer service department (and also with other departments) is quite important. Having no physical retail outlet, the website and the people over the phone becomes the 'face' of the company.
  1. For all those online shoppers, beware of all the typical problems while shopping online. Share your experiences with others so that they would benefit while shopping on e-commerce sites; also, this would help the trustworthy companies to surface to the top.

If anyone has any other good or bad experiences, I would be happy to listen. Please do share  your experiences with one and all for their benefit.

If anything happens to my order, I will let you all know :-)

31 comments:

  1. I got a call from their corporate HQ today morning with assurance that the order is captured and would be fulfilled this week positively. I also notice that the order status in my indiatimes shopping account has been moved to 'verified' state.

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  2. I've had a great experience with Flipkart. To be fair to the others, I must mention that I haven't tried e-commerce with *any* of the other sites. AND, I don't know how Flipkart scores on support, since I've never had to deal with that.

    And, even with Flipkart, I haven't gone beyond books. When I consider buying anything that takes the bill into four-digit territory, that nagging thing about "trust" comes up.

    "If I buy this [insert-gadget-of-your-choice], will I be guaranteed about its condition?"
    "WHAT?? Buy a netbook/camera/... costing 20K+ online??"

    Great summary of the lessons learned from this experience: both from the service provider's point of view, and the consumers'!

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  3. Thanks for comments and sharing your experience Kiran. I think all the e-commerce companies in india are now trying to get rid of that 'nagging thing' you mentioned :-)

    We in India are still in the phase of setting things right for e-commerce from desktops / laptops; when do we move to mobile? Lots to catch-up !

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  4. Loved your post brother.

    I've had similar harrowing experience with bagittoday.com. They shipped my order. I checked again and again with the invoice number that they had generated, which showed that its lying at the local courier office. I called their office, no one picked up (for 3 days). Thereafter the status showed "Delivery Not Made - Rejected by Customer". I was stunned. I immediately called bagittoday and there was this moron who attended my call at the call centre. He played very smart with me with cool and calm voice and all. I told him about the glitch. His answer was that its the fault of the courier company. I felt like shouting at his ignorance and lack of common sense but felt more angry at the company's decision to hire his services for customer care. I calmly told him that whatever the fault of the courier company that's not a customer's problem since my agreement / contract is with bagittoday. It was bagittoday who has a contract with the courier company, so for any fault of the courier company bagittoday must be responsible. He went from being callous to being pretentiously concerned and gave me a general reply that he'll get back to me after consultation with his bosses. I told him that whether I could get that product again at the same criteria. His answer was a simple No. He told me that the offer no longer existed. Worse, he checked and informed me that they do not have stocks of that product. I wanted to gift it to my brother on his 18th birhday. It wasn't meant to be. I hung up without a further word.

    I did write a long e mail to all the relevant people explaining in detail my experience with their oranization. Of course there wasn't any reply from their side.

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    1. Thanks for sharing your experience Anupam. I hope you could gift something more interesting to your brother on his 18th B'day.

      I think it is very difficult to make every employee work with the same passion and commitment as the top management, who created the vision and strategy. At least theoretically, the one company I heard from many channels about a successful customer service is zappos.com. Apparently, they became a 1B USD company in a matter of 10 years. They had no precedence and hence took so long. What lessons are we learning from their experiences?

      I admire all the e-commerce companies for the immnese benefits they are providing to the people (customers and employees). But unless they can provide a trustworthy service in cases like yours (brother's birthday), people are not going to give repeat business to them.

      It's nice that you provided feedback. I am sure it would make a dent and cause a positive difference to someone, somewhere !

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  5. Thanks for sharing, it has happened to me so many times that now i take it as one of those things and shop online only if the product is not available locally :))

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    1. Thanks for sharing your experience Ghazala ! Hope the ecosystem becomes so positive that you don't think twice before shopping online :-)

      I did shop so many times online with out any problems before. This is my first bad experience.

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  6. I received all the books I ordered - in good shape !

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  7. Vijay,
    I use flipkart on regular basis, including their new digital music store and found it to be fantastic. Even firstcry is fine. I had problems with infibeam and totally gave up on them. I also use zoomin and they were quite nice in the beginning but of late, I'm not satisfied.

    I believe customer service is sales (http://goo.gl/LNsVe)

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    1. Thanks for sharing your experiences Judes.

      Well, I got my books in less than a week's time in this case as well. But the experience on the day of purchase was less than pleasant.

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  8. It all depends on where you buy from. Never buy from online shops unless you have confirmed that others have had good experience with them. Never pay in advance especially large amounts. Pay only COD. Even that don't pay the guy till you open the pack and make sure that everything is fine. I have done a lot of online shopping and here is my experience:

    Flipkart: The best one out there. I have bought two mobiles and a lot of stuff from there. Mostly COD. Everything perfect. Never had a problem. Will buy from them anytime.

    Ebay: A parade of junk stuff,but some vendors are good. I buy only if I get a flat off coupon and my risk is usually not more than 200 Rs. Many vendors deliver crappy stuff usually broken in transit and if you have to send the junk back you will end up paying more than what it is worth. So much for refund guarantee.

    Star CJ: Bought a Casio piano for 7K from them and some clothes. Everything was fine. You can trust them. But take the COD Option if possible.

    Indiatimes shopping: I checked the reviews just now because I got a flat Rs. 250 off coupon and wanted to by a spike buster which works out to 50% discount. It is available on the site but I will rather spend 200 more and buy it from elsewhere. The web is full of terrible experiences with indiatimes shopping. I dont want to pay Rs. 250 and get a headache :-D

    Manoj

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  9. Crossed my fingers and bought the spike buster anyway and it arrived without any problems in a week. It was a smooth transaction with no follow up required. Don't know if things have changed for the good at indiatimes or I just got lucky.

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    1. No doubts, they have improved as that was the only choice to sustain. With product and marketing strategies being standardized across brands, the differentiating factor is quality of service.

      Happy to know that you got your spike buster.

      For no other reason apart from inertia, I continue to order books on Flipkart. There has been no issue so far...

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  10. I too had a bad experience with Indiatimes Shooping which i purchased with a great deal on 12-12-12 from them. I was so disappoint that i made a video out of it.

    Here's the Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqkKLG3ptRI

    Have a watch and let me know.... :-)

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  11. E-Commerce has become the one of important need for any business or it is another way to handle business easily by providing convenient services to public.

    In the last two decades, there have been improvements in the way online business is conducted.
    E-commerce sites and applications have contributed a lot to these changes, and the changes have improved how many online traders do business.
    Where some sites have over the years improved on various areas with a sole aim of improving on the business experience of both parties. On the other hand some sites are found to be very worst and fraud with their services, came to know after a survey, I have some of examples like, Indiatimes shopping, Timtara, Jabong.com, 100bestbuy, Rediff Shopping, ebay. Even I went through some of consumer forums and also found so many complaints against these sites. I think Govt. must take a needy action against these fraud sites.

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  12. we too had a horrible shopping experience!

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  14. I had horrible experience with Indiatimes. They sent me faulty product so I had to call them many times in their STD number (They DON'T have TOLL FREE number). They arranged reverse pick up. Now I neither have my product nor money. They kept my product and now not sending my money back. I have shared my experience in following blog post. http://lenovoshoppingindiatimesfraud.wordpress.com/

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  15. The same problem happened to me in indiatimes.. I really wonder how many more have had similar experiences!! So only now I rely on very trust-able sites like flipkart for electronic goods, buygreenz for vegetables and qusec.in for groceries..

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